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Absolute, tragic madness. If this does not end their political prospects I am moving to Canada.



Oh. And just in case that wasn't enough for you, check out what this ridiculous band of wealthy white men plans to do about abortion...

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(Anonymous) wrote:
May. 9th, 2007 08:42 am (UTC)
Can't watch videos at work, but I assume this is the three hands up for "who doesn't believe in evolution?".

Brownback, Hucakabee and Tancredo, if memory serves (and I don't even live in the States - do I get a gold star?).

Warren Ellis (for he is Internet Jesus) had a particularly blunt message for the GOP candidates:
http://www.the-engine.net/forum/index.php?webtag=ENGINE&msg=8502.2

Warning: the link contains strong language and probably falls into the shadowy realm of NSFW. It is, however, very funny.

P.
(Anonymous) wrote:
May. 9th, 2007 08:56 am (UTC)
Ooh! Ooh! The Tubes just spat out this relevant nugget:

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10733.html

Apparently, Mitt "Fabulous Hair" Romney is under pressure from the Religious Right to explain why he kept his hand down.

P.

[info]kaleandwine wrote:
May. 9th, 2007 06:38 pm (UTC)
Gold Star!
It's old news, I know, but too terrible to let pass. But curious: do you follow Irish government as closely as you follow ours? :-)

The Republicans are in a fabulous bind here. Their idiotic support for Bush and the Iraq war already alienates them from the majority of "regular America" (oh, it feels so good to finally say that), so they DO need the Evangelical vote to keep up their numbers. But now that Evangelicals have gone all-out in asking for the candidates to reveal their inner crazy, they'll have to move even further from what America wants. Yeehaw! Bring it on, Pat Robertson. I love to watch these guys burn bridges with their fire and brimstone.

ps. I'm increasingly certain that Warren Ellis is a public-relations god. Is his writing as genius as his online persona?
[info]theanonamerican wrote:
May. 9th, 2007 08:13 pm (UTC)
Re: Gold Star!
Yes.

I don't know if you like comics, but if you have no particular aversion to it, read Transmetropolitan.
[info]theanonamerican wrote:
May. 9th, 2007 08:18 pm (UTC)
Re: Gold Star!
It's old news, I know, but too terrible to let pass. But curious: do you follow Irish government as closely as you follow ours? :-)

None of us do, to be honest, though Dr. P. is very much the man with the most knowledge in our group.

You'll note I didn't say expert though... ;)
[info]cerandor wrote:
May. 9th, 2007 10:52 pm (UTC)
Re: Gold Star!
I struggle to follow Irish politics. It's very close to being a content-free zone, as the parties all hog the centre and rarely advocate anything radical. Not a bad thing in itself, but it makes elections surprisingly dull. Even our scandals are low-key. Then again, having grown up in Northern Ireland, I'm deeply cynical when it comes to anything resembling politics.

As for Warren Ellis, having introduced the guys to his work in the first place, I can heartily recommend him. He tends to range across genres, so there's probably something to suit your taste. "Transmetropolitan," as mentioned elsewhere, is all about politics and near-future science and culture. In terms of superheroes, "Authority" and "Planetary" are probably his best works, and "Newuniversal" is my favourite of his current series. There are many more.
(Anonymous) wrote:
May. 10th, 2007 08:48 am (UTC)
Re: Gold Star!
Irish government: Not half as entertaining as the American government and the enthralling bloodsport that is your presidential election. :)

We have an election at the moment and I'm trying to find any item of interest in the wall-to-wall coverage of promises of tax cuts and jam for everyone. I'm going to miss the vote by dint of being in Japan at the time, but the only reason I managed to summon up for wanting to vote for the opposition was that the current government's been in power too long and - as Ciaran has said - politicians are like soup: they need to be stirred regularly to prevent the scum rising to the top.

The one thing that has pricked my interest is another round of the interminable crisis in our repressive and regressive abortion laws.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2076101,00.html

If you think Ireland is a liberal sugar-candy mountain, think again. But at least the good guys/gals won this round.

Warren Ellis - Love Swami, Internet Jesus and Space Rasputin. Nothing more need be said. :)

P.
[info]kaleandwine wrote:
May. 10th, 2007 05:47 pm (UTC)
Miss D.
Ah yes. I've been following that one via the BBC. I'm quite glad that things were resolved in her favor - and have to admit that it was interesting to see the abortion debate unfold in another country.

To be honest I don't think of any nation in Europe as a sugar-candy mountain, but I do find that the general politics/mindset/discussion seem to be more in line with my personal beliefs (which tend toward the Socialist sometimes) than America's. Talking with you guys has reinforced that feeling a bit, although I have a sense that you're not representative of your country as a whole.

I find it interesting that liberalism/conservatism in Europe (or areas of Europe) is defined along different lines than we use here. There's been a lot of talk about Nicholas Sarkozy as a conservative, for example - which he is - but as a French conservative he actually backs several things that America considers "liberal causes"... I've been trying to get a better grasp of the political climates in other countries, as I believe it's helpful to look outside of the black-and-white box when defining your governmental ideals.

Ah, ramble! Anyway, despite the fact that Ireland is more centrist than here, for example, my gut feeling is that religion is still a big part of the national identity and social consciousness. I could be wrong. But given the strong history of Catholicism there I wasn't surprised by the Miss D case (or debate) at all.
[info]kaleandwine wrote:
May. 10th, 2007 05:43 pm (UTC)
LJ-comment: REPLY ALL
Okay, Warren Ellis!

To be honest I've twice gone into Comic Book stores and twice walked out. Over here, at least, the Comic Book world seems very much an insider's club. I didn't know where to begin in the shop, and felt mightily out of place.

Thank god for Amazon, I guess. Besides the intrigue of his storylines, I wonder if the combination of words-and-pictures will stir up my artistic fire. Comic book art is stylized and beautiful in its own way, and is perhaps the one genre I haven't really studied.

Forgive me for the blasphemy I'm about to commit, but I find the whole phenomena of WarrenEllis fascinating. Despite being an obviously prolific and talented writer (you will use grander terms, I'm sure, but that's where I'll start), he is EVERYWHERE online. He is exceedingly cool in all of those forums, for sure, and plays perfectly to his crowd. It seems that he has done something new to fiction fan-dom (or my sense of it, at least): create an army of worshipers. So this is what I wonder: is he actually the way he portrays himself to be, or is it a carefully-crafted persona? When you communicate with him, do you think you're getting the real Warren, or the guy he wants you to see?

I suppose the real answer is: who cares? I suppose its the kind of question a girl would ask. Still, it makes me wonder. He has quite a lot of power, no matter how you look at it.
[info]cerandor wrote:
May. 10th, 2007 06:13 pm (UTC)
Re: LJ-comment: REPLY ALL
I suppose there are two reasons for the Cult of Ellis (as it's regularly referred to). The first is that he communicates very well with the varied groups of people who congregate online, as the massive amount of research he tends to do for his books gives him an insight into a lot of little cultural niches. Also, he tends not to speak down to people, except in a tongue-in-cheek manner. The second reason is that he communicates prolifically. As you say, he's everywhere, and I first cottoned on to him years ago, through a column he wrote for a comics magazine rather than through his comics themselves.

Anyone planning on taking over the world would benefit from studying his methods.
[info]kaleandwine wrote:
May. 10th, 2007 10:24 pm (UTC)
So would you prostrate yourself at the altar of Warren? :-)

I wonder how many of the Cult members would eagerly do such a thing - while simultaneously decrying the evils of religion. Somehow that amuses me.

That said, if anyone ever does take over the world, I hope they do it his way. It's a nice alternative to the usual fear-and-lies recipe of many _______ leaders.
(Anonymous) wrote:
May. 10th, 2007 11:03 pm (UTC)
Alas, Space Rasputin only takes wimmin for his Holy Slut Army. The chosen few become his Filthy Assistants.

We menfolk are just microscopic cogs in his catastrophic plan (to quote Nick Cave).
Sob!

P.
;)

[info]kaleandwine wrote:
May. 11th, 2007 08:01 am (UTC)
Aah, the great injustices of the world...
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